Where did the Nazi gold go? The gold train in Poland

Categories: Nazi treasures

It is generally known that the Nazis bought up huge amounts of valuables, art objects and especially gold in occupied Europe. They tried to take this loot to the safety of Germany during the retreat or hid it in times of need. This created many treasures that are still being sought today. The problem with prospectors is that they usually lack critical thinking, focus on one (often dubious) piece of information that they believe, and fanatically embark on a search. One of these great and legendary Nazi treasures is the "Golden Train", which carried gold, art and valuables from the advancing Red Army from the city of Breslau (nowadays Vratislav in Czech, Wroclaw in Polish).

Let's try to critically evaluate the available information about this treasure and guess what might have happened to it.

Narrative

In mid-August 2015, two men - a Pole and a German: Piotr Koper (a construction entrepreneur) and Andreas Richter (a German citizen), in an attempt to remain anonymous, at least initially, announced through a lawyer that they had managed to find the train that disappeared at the end of the war. They said they would reveal the details when they received a promise of a finders' fee of ten percent of the value of the treasure.

Its location was also said to have been led by the testimony of a former Wehrmacht soldier on his deathbed, who was involved in hiding the train 70 years ago and provided the finders with a hand-drawn plan.

The train, which was up to 100 metres long, was fully loaded with valuables including gold, diamonds and many works of art; the total cargo was said to be up to 300 tonnes (other sources say 300 kg of gold). According to surviving reports, it left Wroclaw sometime in 1945, bound for Berlin - but never arrived there, and its trail is supposed to end somewhere in the vicinity of Valbrich, where it was hidden in the corridors of the Riese project near the Książ castle. Allegedly, the train entered a secret tunnel there, which the Germans filled in, mined and covered up most of the tracks so that it was impossible to find a way to it.

Later on, the two treasure hunters conducted a GPR (ground penetrating radar) KS-700 survey on their own, where they obtained reflections strikingly resembling the silhouettes of the carriages with guns hidden underground.

On the basis of these images, and after checking them with Polish bomb technicians, the two men were given permission to dig up the reconnaissance probes - and found nothing.

Uncertainties and questions

At first glance the story looks good, but on second glance it is very strange and there are many uncertainties. Stories like this tend to be either completely made-up fairy tales or at least heavily edited by the storyteller. Often unintentionally, where the storyteller or memoirist really thinks they are telling the truth, but memory or bad information misleads them.

This story is very difficult to work with because it gives virtually no usable details. Let's try to focus on that and try to fill in the story from other sources.

The first issue is the date. This is pretty significant because if we know the exact date, we can cross hunt for corroborating or refuting information. Unfortunately, we keep getting "at the end of the war" as the date for all the articles, which is very vague. The only exception is a sentence attributed by the author of the article to one of the searchers - Piotr Koper: "The Polish amateur searcher reminds us that he is by no means losing sight of his main target - the Nazi treasure. He has no doubt that the train set off in May 1945 from Wroclaw, then called Breslau, but is said never to have arrived in Walbrzych, then Waldenburg."

https://www.zlato.cz/zlato/hledal-nacisticky-zlaty-vlak-nasel-fresky-ceskych-kralu/

and also here is a repeat of May 1945: from application to excavation - Gold Train Walbrzych - Gold Train - History (zloty-pociag.com)

This is, however, information whose veracity could certainly be questioned with success. Either Mr Koper, described as "a man who has been involved with trains for years", is severely uninformed about the wider context, or this sentence was put into his mouth without his consent by the editor of the article. Because in the framework of the Vistula-Oder operation(https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viselsko-Odersk%C3%A1_operation) the Red Army launched a surprise and overwhelming attack on the German troops stationed in what is now Poland and drove them at a speed of 50 to 70 kilometers per day to beyond the Oder River, where they arrived in late January. They launched an attack on Silesia on 19 January, and on the same day the evacuation of the civilian population from Wroclaw was ordered. The Russians surrounded Wrocław on 13 February.

From the above, it is highly probable that the golden train definitely did not leave in May, but sometime between 19 January and 13 February (most likely the end of January). It can be assumed that nothing had been prepared by that 19 January, because anyone who even mentioned the evacuation would have risked being accused of defeatism, which in the Reich was an almost immediate execution by shooting. Officially, therefore, it was only after the forced evacuation of most of the civilians in the town was ordered by the Silesian Gauleiter Karl Hanke on 19 January 1945 that the packing could be done. It can be reasonably assumed that it took some time to gather and load 300 tons of valuables (even under haste and stress). This brings us to the end of January, or at the latest the first days of February 1945. Very probably not after 13 February, when the city was surrounded. The idea of a train getting out of a city surrounded by a conquering army is more than unlikely. Perhaps a car or infantry unit would have slipped through, but a steam train (albeit an armoured one) billowing smoke and steam and having to run on rails would probably not have made it through the encirclement. Vratislav may have fought back until 6 May, but the treasure train certainly did not leave the besieged town despite the Russian divisions surrounding the town.

Normally the protection of such transports of valuables is carried out by a specialized unit of 100 percent trained and reliably loyal soldiers, which in the case of Germany certainly meant an SS unit. This was apparently not available, so a regular Wehrmacht unit was assigned to protect the train, which included the soldier who later made the deathbed statement.

Where was the train originally headed? The word Berlin is constantly repeated in the available sources, but this may not be true at all. The soldier from whom the information came certainly did not attend the command meetings. They were fleeing the Red Army from the east, so he logically assumed they were going to Berlin as the heart of Germany. But we already know that at that time (or shortly thereafter), on the contrary, the valuables were evacuated from Berlinto the potash mine at Merkers in Bavaria, where several carloads of gold and currency were taken in March 1945. Valuables were also usually transported to the Alpine Fortress at that time, which may have been the final destination of the train. The crossing of the Protectorate was uneventful, Bohemia was peaceful and (compared to Poland) the partisan movement was weak (ishin the first half of April 1945 German troops were crossing Bohemia without any problems) and could not threaten the armoured train. Difficulties could only be expected in southern Bohemia and Austria in connection with raids by American "boilermakers" who specifically targeted trains. However, it is also possible that the train had no target when it fled Wroclaw. It had to be cleared immediately, as the Russian tanks were going full tilt and could have arrived any day. There were Russian battle planes in the sky, firing at anything that moved, their guns piercing the armour of the tanks as surely as the boilers of the locomotives. So the logical immediate and temporary solution was to drive the 70 or so miles to Ksiaz and there hide the train in the tunnel from the planes and wait for further orders. Because in the confusion of the Russian offensive in Berlin, there was probably no one who could clearly formulate the combat andorders - when and where to go on which track, where to get coal for the locomotive, where to get food for the soldiers, and so on.

Subliminally, the narrative imposes the idea that the train with its cargo of valuables arrived in Ksiaz, which was deserted and empty, and therefore could have been used by thethe train's guard and security safely and without witnesses hid the valuable cargo in the tunnel under the castle, and blew up and mined the tunnel portal at the turn-off from the main line.

But it is very easy to trace that this was not the case.

Ksiaz was a favourite castle of Himmler and Hitler. The castle was confiscated from its original owners in 1939 - incidentally, at that time Ksiaz was on German territory, not Polish - Poland only got the territory after the war - see for example the map here:

https://mavink.com/post/8E5788E794A8922F60FB68E2D5C026368AAM055691/historicke-mapy-evropy

The Nazi paramilitary organization "Todt" entered the Książ Castle as early as 1941, intensive work is underway, probably one of Hitler's main headquarters is being prepared here.

During this time, underground tunnels are also built under the castle and the courtyard of honour with a 40-metre deep elevator shaft in front of the main portal.

During this time, a tunnel for the railway is also being built so that Hitler can take the train to the elevator that will take him directly to the entrance of the castle. The importance of the underground and the castle is evidenced by the fact that in early 1945 the Germans stopped work, many prisoners died here (up to 50,000 were deployed), and work was continuous. The construction was supervised by the Minister of Armaments, Albert Speer. On Hitler's direct order, work resumed in January 1945, but only ended when the front approached and the Russians were within range. The Russians did not occupy Ksiaz until 8 May and later blew up part of it.

The time difference between 13 February (the encirclement of Wroclaw) and 8 May (the arrival of the Red Army in Ksiaz) is quite long (over 80 days), but explainable. For the Russians, Berlin was the joker and they rushed to it, writing "To Berlin" signs on their tanks. Some nest in the Owl Mountains didn't seem to interest them much. The main lines of attack can be seen here:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D0%92%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%BE-%D0%9E%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F.jpg

Does anyone really think that for those 80 days the SS left a train full of gold parked in the tunnels underground on the Ksiaz and did nothing about it? Does anyone really think that in the meantime some general in Berlin didn't deal with the situation? The soldier escorting the train must not have known anything about it, his last contact with the train was when they parked it underground handed over the protection of the train to an SS unit (there were lots and lots of them) and he was apparently put in the hands of a flintlock and sent to fight at the front. And this little soldier kept in his memory the memory of the enormous treasure he had last seen on the train in the underground tunnel under the Ksiaz castle.

Where could the treasure have been repatriated from Ksiaz? Because it certainly didn't stay in that tunnel.

The tiny trail leads to Bohemia because it was the only direction that made sense. Bohemia was peaceful and safe at the time, the uprising didn't start to hit until April. The headquarters of the Mitte Group command, under the command of General - later Field Marshal - Ferdinand Schörner, moved into the spa town of Velichovka, a short distance from Ksiaz. The latter did not have a very small force even at the end of the war. Schörner's army then numbered about 900,000 soldiers. "It had about 9,400 guns and mortars, 2,400 tanks and over 1,000 aircraft,"

https://radiozurnal.rozhlas.cz/polni-marsal-schorner-se-o-kapitulaci-dozvedel-ve-velichovkach-6263432?nonmob=1).

Schörner's staff numbered over three thousand, and his staff train was parked in nearby Jaroměř. From Velichovka to Ksiaz is 90 kilometres by road, probably even less by rail. Could Schörner have left unnoticed the train full of treasures he had at his fingertips? Because the communication was working and reports from Ksiazha safely reached Hitler's bunker in Berlin on a regular basis.

We have direct testimony at our fingertips. The mystery writer Arnošt Vašíček is said to have met a witness who has evidence that the gold train reached the territory of the then Protectorate.

https://www.tyden.cz/rubriky/domaci/hledany-zlaty-vlak-nacistu-mozna-dojel-az-do-cech_394977.html

After all, the Germans were also taking a rare breeding herd of horses from Ksiaz - and they would leave the gold underground?

"In 1945, it was decided to evacuate the stallions from Ksiazha to the Saxon stud farm Moritzburg. Their transfer began on 5 March, but the destination ended up being the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia."

https://pametni-mince.cz/pametni-razby/katalog/katalog-razby/stado-ksiaz

Summary

Assumed fact based on circumstantial evidence and known information.

After the Red Army launched its attack across the Vistula River, there was a panic in Silesia and the gold, valuables, artwork and currency from Wroclaw were stored on the train and evacuated to the tunnel under the Ksiaz Castle sometime after 19 January. A soldier whose name we do not know was also a member of the train protection unit and who later made a statement on his deathbed.

The protection of the standing hidden train was taken over by the Ksiaz garrison (presumably members of the SS) and the military guards from Wrocław were assigned to other tasks.

The information about the train full of valuable deposits was forwarded to Berlin. There, further transport and protection of the train was professionally prepared. Sometime in the following weeks the train left the underground of Ksiaz and moved to Jaroměř under the protection of General Schö's armySchörner (or rather his deputy, Schörner did not physically arrive in Velichovka from Hitler's headquarters until 15 April 1945, and the train probably arrived there earlier).

The further fate of the treasure, (or its most valuable part) is complicated and I will describe it in a future blog.

Conclusion

Of course, it is very possible that I am wrong and the train is still in the underground castle. The train may contain the entire treasure, or the treasure without its most valuable parts. It could be that due to damage to the track by bombing or guerrilla action, or some technical fault with the locomotive, it was impossible to move the train. In such a case, it could very well have happened that only the most valuable pieces of the treasure (gold, diamonds) were taken away and the rest (statues, works of art) is still there.

If anyone wants to search for the treasure in the golden train, they can always go to Ksiaz Castle. It is 200 kilometres and three hours by car from Prague. The castle itself is beautiful - quite rightly they call it the Polish Versailles. There is a tour of the Nazi underground as part of the sightseeing tours and it is well worth it. Except they don't have an info centre in such a huge monument and the lady at the ticket office spoke nothing but Polish. We tried in vain to explain to her in Czech, Slovak, Polish, Russian, English and German that we didn't want a ticket for today but for tomorrow. It took a quarter of an hour, and finally a random visitor had to help with the translation. So I recommend - first google translate what you want into Polish and then try to buy a ticket.

The area around the castle is also beautiful and contains other attractions. Surely it is better to search for treasure in such a beautiful and safe environment than chasing with a spade in the heat among swarms of mosquitoes and poisonous snakes for Captain Kidd's treasure in the Caribbean or Seychelles.

You don't even need a shovel or pickaxe to search. A train 100 or 150 metres long, and armoured to boot, represents a major intervention in the physics of the underlying soils and rocks. Of course, the first thing an amateur thinks of is GPR (ground penetrating radar) and a magnetometer. These methods have been used by prospectors, but so far without success. What hasn't been used of the non-destructive methods, for example, have been electrical resistivity methods. Steel (not just train tracks, but perhaps tracks) has a much lower electrical resistivity (and higher conductivity) than soil (albeit aquiferous) and thus some results could be had. Oh, and some multicable (or a couple of electrodes and a piece of cable) will fit just fine in the trunk of a passenger car. And it's a non-destructive method, so there should be no reasonable argument against its use. Same with refraction seismics, because the tunnel lining (or even those tracks and train) will have a significantly higher seismic wave speed. A professional geophysicist might think of many other things.

You can't find the actual tunnel by geophysics, finding the empty space is one of the most difficult (and often impossible) tasks in geophysics.

If someone takes the plunge, I wish them good hunting.

Burden

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Parádní článek, přečetl jsem jej jedním dechem a těším se na pokračování.

Toto letí, to je už skoro 9 let, co přišlo to oznámení, že se podařilo vlak najít... Si vzpomínám, jak jsem v práci četl online reportáž ohledně toho hledání a mám pocit, jakoby to bylo včera :-D

Jinak to tvoje zhodnocení odjezdu toho vlaku a ostatní věci, jak v článku uvádíš, tak má to logiku a osobně se k tomu taky přikláním.

parádní článek,tyhle "záhady" mám rád ;-) 8-)
u nás máme taky jednu,mám to tam pouhých 10 km,byl jsem tam už několikrát a myslím že ne jenom já.. :-D :-D :-D
http://www.zanikleobce.cz/index.php?detail=1447211

Prozradím vám tajemství.
Vlak dorazil až do jedné obce na Plzeňsku a poté byl ukryt v podzemní propojovací štole mezi fabrikou a kaolinovým dolem.
V "klidu" tam odpočívá dodnes.
Díky pozdějšímu rozhodnutí soudruhů došlo k zatopení Severní a Jižní jámy chemickým "svinstvem", čímž došlo, že tento toxický mix otrávil veškerou podzemní vodu v okruhu několika km. Buhužel došlo i k zatopení ukrytého vlaku a tak vše krom zlata a diamantů podlehlo zkáze.

S ohledem na obrovskou masu tekutého toxického mixu v Jižním odklizu, nelze provést jakýkoliv průnik do štoly. ;-)

Já vám taky prozradím tajemství: žádný vlak s poklady není a ta částka taky nesouhlasí :-D

JackWhite - jestli byl ukryt v podzemní propojovací štole mezi fabrikou a kaolinovým dolem, tak to musel být hlubinný kaolinový důl, a ten je na Plzeňsku v Nevřeni, co teda vím, o dalším jiném teda nevím.

Pěkný den ,
také jsem slyšel od pamětníků , že v dubnu 45 dorazil do Kaplice vlak s několika vagony.
Následně byl urychleně přeložen do přistavených nákladních vozidel. Tyto naložené vozy mizely i s černým doprovodem někde v Novohradkách. Naposledy byly spatřeny u Malont. Tam jejich stopa mizí.
Traduje se , že to dojelo do Stříbrných Hutí a tam auta i s obsahem končí. ;-)

Ta částka fakt nesouhlasí. Už sem ty zlatý cihly doma několikrát přepočítával a převažoval a sekli se o 50 kilo...🤔😁🤣🤣🤣

Taky mám rád tyhle tajnosti...🙂👍

To Erich
To je zajímavá informace a docela zapadá do pokračování příběhu. Zabývám se stopováním (nejenom) toho zlata přes Čechy až do konečného úkrytu už dost let, jenomže to je velice komplikovaný příběh propojený s mnoha dalšími. To pokračování napíšu, ale až časem, nejdříve nějaké analyticky snadnější příběhy. Příště patrně vypustím analýzu co se stalo s Rommelovým pokladem u břehů Korsiky - tedy pokud o to bude mít admin zájem, jako že předběžně mi napsal, že ano.

Pěkné čtení. Mně by stačil ten vagon s diamanty, sochy a obrazy bych neměla kam dát :-)

burden - první vstup na půdu LP (pokud to není nějaká reinkarnace), první článek a hned tak obsáhlý. To vážně zírám. Článek je psán poměrně nezvykle a je opravdu dlouhý. Na konci jsem nevěděl, co jsem vlastně četl na začátku, proto jsem ho musel číst 2x za sebou. Ale jinak velmi, velmi zajímavé téma.

Vlak hledat nepůjdu, neb peníze kazí karakter.
A s tím překladem - stačí použít moderní telefonní aparát s překladačem. Zvolím cílový jazyk, česky do aparátu zablekotám a z aparátu to zablekotá polsky, somálsky, persky, maorsky, čínsky, japonsky...., prostě dle libosti. Nechme práci strojům ;-)

Romane přesně tak, peníze kazí charakter a tak už chápu, že náš stát nechce, abychom si kazili charaktery, tak pokud možno raději všechno schlamstne, co se týče nálezů :-D

Čau Marky ;-)
Jářku..., myslí to s námi zkrátka dobře a pečují o naše zdraví.

@V-D: Marky velice se pleteš
Každý kaolinový důl - lom začal hezky z povrchu, většinou o rozměru 20 x 20 m a postupně do určité hloubky, následně se razily chodby do boků a ty už byly pod zemí.
Do Nevřeně nikdy nevedla železnice a ani vlečka, ale do H. Břízy železnice vede a hlavně vede-vedla vlečka jak do Šamotky, tak i do Flísky a za ní v lese cca 1 km je Jižní odkliz a kousek dál je Severní. Oba tyto lomy byly propojeny podzemními štolami, mohu v případě zájmu ukázat přímo v terénu.
Štolu mezi Jižní jámou (odkliz) a Flískou (bývalá keramička), tak to přesně nemohu sloužit i když je tam linie propadlin, tady by se muselo hledat v archivu.

Ano Romane, myslí to s námi dobře :-D

JackWhite - děkuji za upřesnění, co se týče těch kaolinových dolů. Ono vycházel jsem z dostupných informací na netu a ne z vlastní zkušenosti ;-)
Ovšem stejně, pokud by byla zatopena podzemní propojovací chodba mezi fabrikou a kaolinovým dolem, tak si nějak nedokážu představit, že by se tam vešla vlaková souprava.
Tady na Ostravsku je plno dolů, ale v žádné propojovací chodbě bys tohle neschoval, jelikož nejdříve jde šachta dolů a pak jdou štoly po patrech a u toho kaolinového dolu, jakože by vlak sjel postupně z úrovně země do podzemí? Pod jakým úhlem, aby to bylo proveditelné?
Ano, do hory, ve které by se něco těžilo, to si dovedu představit, ale jak bys to pak zatopil?
Tím ovšem nevylučuji vůbec to tvoje tvrzení, jen uvažuji takhle v diskuzi ;-)

Parádní článek
;-)

Děkuji za pěkné počteníčko, samozřejmě jako většina tady jsem o tom vlaku ledacos četl,a jedno je jistý. S určitostí neví nikdo nic ,a to je na tom to nejlepší. Pokud tam někde je ,a někdo ho najde tak to bude pěkná hauptrefa.💰💰💰😄😄😄🫣😮😸

Moc pěkny počtení 👍

Pěkný počtení, taky jsem to sledoval, když ten nález ohlásili. Ale jedna zásadní otázka. Myslíte si že třeba někdo nezaspíval aby si třeba nějakej esesák nezachránil kejhák? Nebo že by po tom nešli rusáci či amíci a zdali bychom se vůbec něco dozvěděli kdyby se takový kořisti zmocnili už jen z politických důvodů? Myslim že měli daleko věčí páky v podobě prostého života aby se dobrali lokalizace. Nechce se mi věřit že by byl někdo natolik loajální aby se nechal kvůli tomu třeba zprovodit ze světa i se svoji rodinou. Nebo že by se nějakej přeživší v době míru nepokusil vlak s příslibem nálezného lokalizovat. Tohle jediný mi na tom celém smrdí...

Lucky, ty samé otázky mě taky napadají.

Takže je třeba možné, že někdy po válce se v tichosti celý náklad ztratil ;-)

Ono taky nemálo esesáků dožilo ve velkém bohatství v brazílii o:-) Nebo kdyby to našli amíci, tak by jistě neriskovali roztržku s ruskem, který by jistě ten náklad nárokovali. Politika je stvinstvo i v době míru, natož válce. Ale třeba fakt opravdu někde leží, ale hádam že to bude probouzet ze spaní nejednoho hledače dávno po nás :-D

@V-D: Marky, pokud to nemáš daleko, zajeď se do Nevřeně podívat a to nejen do zbytku podzemí, ale i na povrch, kde uvidíš velikost důlního systému.
Jo a je nutné se dopředu ohlásit.

JackWhite - právě z Ostravy to mám celkem daleko, ale chystám se do Čech, takže bych to možná spojil. Ale každopádně díky za tip.

Jestli chcete vědět kde je vlak se zlatem a diamanty co se těsně před koncem války ztratil,našel jsem ho ))))) https://www.bombuj.si/online-film-napoleonsskjolin-2023

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